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Monday, November 6, 2017

Miley And Friends, Part 1; October 2015

Posted By: ZiLe Ohai - 4:44 PM


This is one half of a facebook conversation between Glen Miley Collier that took place in October of 2015.

Miley, nee Harriette Legler, is an odd internet character, or maybe I should say characters. She has a small army of imaginary friends, each with their own dramatic backstory. Sometimes her imaginary friends get into mischief and start trolling and harassing other people.

The conversation below was sent by the person she was talking to at that time. I deleted that person's half of the conversation to protect their identity. The conversation was on one of her facebook accounts under the name Len Collier.

At the time of this conversation, legal action was being considered against Miley so she quit hiding behind her imaginary friends and initiated this conversation so she could blame her misdeeds on those very naughty imaginary friends.

Like most people who are fibbing, Miley is very prone to giving too much information so the thread is a long one. 

It should be noted that most of the relatives and friends she names in this conversation are imaginary.

Yes, it's very crowded in her head.




Conversation started March 1

Sunday

Len Collier
10/25, 1:24pm

Len Collier
Can we talk?


Len Collier
10/25, 1:37pm

Len Collier
Ugh sorry I had to switch browsers. Microsoft Edge kept closing on me. But anyway I am very sorry for how I have been towards you. I'm sorry that even for a second I believed jo jo Camp. Before I forget, I got my cousin watching him and regularly PDFing Jo Camp's Twitter page you can't get on.


Len Collier
10/25, 1:38pm

Len Collier
I created a forum specifically to keep track of particulars. On it is PDFs on Jo Camp's profiles @PinkyPuffGirlz. Also of that David Lawrence that Priest doesn't like.


Len Collier
10/25, 1:39pm

Len Collier
I created a name for you on that forum Username: REDACTED password: REDACTED


Len Collier
10/25, 1:45pm

Len Collier
This area can only be seen if you are logged in. This is for a reason. This is so Jo Jo doesn't figure out me, my cousin Alexa (@H8trchick) or our other friends, know he is a fraud. This way we can keep eyes on his profile


Len Collier
10/25, 1:49pm

Len Collier
This is to prove to you what I say. I can also take the drive links from those posts and give to you directly here if you would rather.



Len Collier
10/25, 1:59pm

Len Collier
http://pastebin.com/iykZJnr2 This is a pastebin of all know Twitter's I know that Jo Camp has along with Twitter IDs for when he changes URLs. I know I have no right to ask anything of you, but please keep this on the downlow. It's my job to keep track of Twitter IDs. My cousin Alexa will keep PDFing his profile now and then and post the links on that private forum I created.


@pinkypuffgirlz => 2894111401 @kjhgfdfghjklkmj => 2372046738 @laranjeiratuga = - Pastebin.com
pastebin.com

Len Collier
10/25, 2:03pm

Len Collier
Also as alot of things came to light, I made sure Shawn, my boyfriend, understood that certain posts about you and those you knew had to be deleted from his antibullyempire forum. He was @Antibullyempire, but he changed his url to @Thor541 and changed the url to an old twitter for a friend's forum to @antibullyempire. He does have a temper on him and if he says anything about you, somehow have me informed and I will set him straight. @H8trchick was never me. That's my cousin Alexa (birth family)


Len Collier
10/25, 2:06pm

Len Collier
The only Twitter accounts I have are these: @DarkHeartAngel3 (Currently in use) @StarOcean2087 (left for dead) @Sacrilegends.

That's it. I lost the information for @Sacrilegends. I was going to use it to tweet links to new segments of these stories I write. AS for @StarOcean2087, I thought about using it again as sort of a news source for the Star Ocean series of games since "supposedly" a new game is coming out.


Len Collier
10/25, 2:14pm

Len Collier
@WhiteTestament4, @BlackTestament4, @BlueTestament4, and @RedTestament4 are a fraternal set of quadruplets. I've known them a long time. Alvin (@WhiteTestament4) is married to Norrine (@NorrieC_UTD).

Kelvin (@RedTestament4) is dating Norrine's sister Angelica (@AngieMC_UTD). They share a house together and get along well. On wrestling nights they watch Smackdown, RAW together.

@BlackTestament (Webster) and @BlueTestament4 (Larry) share an apartment together. Very big and spacious. Close to Orange Park Mall.

Liz (@Babydoll9186) is Seth's (@Wil_Zarathustra) daughter. Liz is the cousin of Larry, Webster, Kelvin and Alvin. Seth is their uncle.

Mandy (@Melanie_c_UTD) is Carl's (@citizen_z541) ex-girlfriend. She shares a home with her brother Zane (@Joe_C_UTD). That is their parents' home. They lost their parents last year. @Cmdr_z_murphy (Chris) is Carl's brother.

@Zenonk987 (Melina) is Shawn's (@Thor541) sister. She is hardly ever on Twitter except to do the follow train thing. @LichKing_x (Arthur) is Melina's husband and Shawn's brother in law.

@H8trchick (Alexa) is my cousin (from birth family). Yes I'm adopted.

@Junior_UTD_PC (Jim) is a friend to many of us. @DasherK_DJ (kevin) is a guy many of us play World of Warcraft with.

@Thor541 (Shawn) is my boyfriend. He's not much a people person and has quite a temper on him. He's never hurt me with it and never would. He doesn't always react well to situations. I've known him all my life.


Len Collier
10/25, 2:56pm

Len Collier
Shawn and I did a switcheroo with his forum as well. Created another one. On his the URL was changed. Then the URL on the newly created one was changed to AntibullyingEmpire. His actual forum is closed off to public view. He wants to leave it for dead. We are going to do a completely new forum. It will be different. It will have some antibullying aspects to it, but no naming people. The reason for this is because of recent events. What if the people pointed out as bullies are really the victims and just being manipulated? Anyway, I am here if you want to talk. I'll keep this Facebook account open and check it periodically. So long as you do not block me, I will continue to pass on information to you that I see posted on that hidden informational forum (s15.zetaboards.com/DerWillZurMacht) that I created. There's no conditions attached. No "If I do this you do this" conditions attached. I'm sorry I'm not too good with words sometimes. Part of it is my autism. Part of it is past bad experiences. How do I say this. This is my way, and my friends way or trying to make amends. Alexa with her keeping and eye on Jo Jo Camp's profile. Me with keeping track of Twitter IDs for particulars. @Babydoll9186 (Sweet Pea on that forum) keeping track of reportable tweets. Her father Seth (@wil_zarathustra) is Seth ROllins on that forum. His job is to keep note of known suspended accounts of particulars.

Each person on that forum has their own little job to help out. This way no one person has too much to deal with.

Shawn isn't much into the online world. Only Twitter and his forum. A few select games we play together: World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy 11, Minecraft. He mostly reads and loves to do crosswords. Logic stuff too. Logic puzzles.

Anyway Sorry I trailed off there. I am sure you might be aware of a recent incident with Shawn. He has lost his left arm. While he and I wishes it didn't happen, it allowed us to "take a step back" from the online world and bullshit (excuse my language). It's allowed us both to see things with our own eyes without the influence of others. I feel terrible for believing the wrong people. Jo jo and Vinnie. Marcie but I mostly just said what she wanted to hear to shut her up. She can be a little craze if you don't agree with her..

As for Jojo, I haven't spoken to him in months. He mostly asked for the weather in particular areas. One of them was Philadelphia. Another was Clifton New Jersey.I started to figure out he was the bullshitter (excuse my language). I slowly began to ween myself away and acting busy. It worked. With some people it is what you got to do tro protect yourself from fallout. Luckily most of my friends still follow him and he hasn't blocked. This allows us to watch and Alexa (@H8trchick) to PDF his timeline now and then. As far as talking to him. Been many months and he doesn't follow my @DarkHeartAngel3.

As for Vinnie Spina aka Faux.... Me, Shawn, Carl (@Citizen_z541) got fed a line of bullshit (excuse my language). We believed Faux was not Vinnie Spina and was being wrongly fail doxed as her.I didn't think to questions it because Faux/Vinnie was over praising me, Shawn, and Shawn's forum. In a sense we were hungry dogs that took the big juicy steak. We began to figure her out when Shawn was in the hospital the first time and her friends kept making demands to report this report that with little consideration that he needed to rest and concentrate on his health. Plus our now former friend Carl confessed to alot which is here: http://pastebin.com/TzA6Kqb2


Len Collier
10/25, 3:05pm

Len Collier
I know and I'm very sorry for my part in everything, but regardless, I will make sure Alexa keeps an eye on Jojo and Marci (I could smack that awful 60 yr old hag!). I am not asking anything of you, of priest. If he removes my dox. Please let that be his choice. I know how it feels to have decisions not be your own and pestered by others.


Len Collier
10/25, 3:06pm

Len Collier
Shawn hates Carl (@citizen_z541) now. He wants nothing to do with him. Carl has apologized for helping Vinnie with her dirty work and helping to fake DMs. Carl has accepted blame for the DMs against @c1tyofFl1nt and passing them around as if they happened. Shawn is angry and hate him because of how it has hurt and affected me and gotten me put into the line of fire.

As far as me and Carl, I only talk to him if he passes along something about the weather. The last time was when he DMed me saying "200mph Patricia about to hit Mexico". Considering Carl's habit of prior lying, I didn't believe him. But of course I found out different via weather bug. I hardly talk to him.

Shawn's sister Melina (@Zenonk987) has him blocked. A few of mine and Shawn's family and friends do.


Len Collier
10/25, 3:07pm

Len Collier
Oh I know about that. I want to stay as far away from him as possible. That is why I got Alexa silently watching his Twitter. It's only a matter of time before he figures out we are not on his side.


Len Collier
10/25, 3:07pm

Len Collier
2 of her current 3 profiles are PDFed.

I prefer personally to be left out of everything publicly. But I will keep watch as best I can.



Len Collier
10/25, 3:13pm

Len Collier
Right now many of whom I know have her blocked. Little has to be done to do so.


Len Collier
10/25, 3:15pm

Len Collier
https://blocktogether.org/show-blocks/RSvc0U92_X5bnTiozD6Vf7HvQTJWNKIYuLMXCKXN This is a block list I subscribe to. It only blocks close friends of Vinnie Spina. Jo Camp isn't on it otherwise my cousin can't keep an eye on him and who would there be to see on the TL since he won't allow anyone new to follow.

Block Together
If you subscribe to @CoolTweets321's block list, they will be able to see that you are a subscriber and will have the option to unsubscribe you. They will not receive a notification.
blocktogether.org

Len Collier
10/25, 3:16pm

Len Collier
I know this may sound messed up, but I'm not going to ask my dox be removed right now or atleast until Jo Camp is dealt with because it will screw up me and many others like my cousin keeping an eye on him (Jo)

If my dox suddenly goes away, UH OH! RED FLAG! And boom blocks get handed out.



Len Collier
10/25, 3:21pm

Len Collier
This is what Carl (named Rat on that forum I created) had to say about that.



Len Collier
10/25, 3:21pm

Len Collier
That account you speak of was Vinnie and partially Carl. Carl created it, but Vinnie used it, which makes them both as guilty and bad.



Len Collier
10/25, 3:23pm

Len Collier
Most likely camp because Marcie went on alot about how she hated Vinnie Spina and all her friends. Marcie is the type to say what people want to hear. People like her will have you questions what is what/



Len Collier
10/25, 3:25pm

Len Collier
So likely Camp. At once point she kept trying to get me to click on this odd link that was supposedly to a conversation you had with Jo Camp. I never clicked or looked. The link didn't look right. I just told Marcie I looked and made generic comments. Shawn on the other hand ripped into Marcie and block her


Len Collier
10/25, 3:25pm

Len Collier
Then that part was Carl. I knew for awhile Carl was talking to Marcie but stopped when he figured her out.


Len Collier
10/25, 3:28pm

Len Collier
If Jo Camp were to talk to me now or Vinnie or Marcie, I would not even respond. I just want to be left out of their bs. They've caused so much trouble.I just want to be left alone by them and all that know them. I just want to live my life. Enjoy my boyfriend Shawn and help him adjust to his life with 1 arm and just enjoy him.


Len Collier
10/25, 3:29pm

Len Collier
I remember she claimed she got him suspended and I owed her. She didn't take it too well when I said that his site suspension was due to non-payment or latement because of how it looked when I tried to go to it.


Len Collier
10/25, 3:30pm

Len Collier
I have told Carl if he continued to help Vinnie or even listen to Marcie he could get himself into trouble.

Marcie was not happy about that and she wasn't happy when Shawn was pissed at her over a topless pic she sent him. He told her that I was the only woman he ever wanted to see like that. It wasn't taken well.



Len Collier
10/25, 3:33pm

Len Collier
I remembered today that at one point you tried to talk to me here. So I unblocked you and obviously we are talking. I would have followed you on Twitter and DMed with you but in case Camp is wqatching, Bad idea. Alexa wants to continue to keep an eye on him.



Len Collier
10/25, 3:34pm

Len Collier
My opinion is I think Carl helped with alot of them. Carl admitted to that. Even though Carl and I have a history as friends prior to this, I'm not talking to him unless it is about the weather. Hurricanes/typhoons. That sort of thing. That's it. Even at that I keep track myself of all the nasties (wha tI call typhoons) these days.



Len Collier
10/25, 3:34pm

Len Collier
I see that now. Back then I was sacared

I also didn't want to spook you and wanted to atleast get us talking. I have a new FB now, but only kept this one, to be honest, just to talk to you. That's it and this one girl I play World of Warcraft with.


Len Collier
10/25, 3:37pm

Len Collier
As you are aware, I have autism. I don't also "see" or "get" things. I can often misunderstand. I often view things differently. At the time that was sent was close to when I stopped listening to Jojo. I never even fully read it. Parts yes, but not all.

Oh he has many accounts.

Be ready


Len Collier
10/25, 3:38pm

Len Collier
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Len Collier
10/25, 3:39pm

Len Collier
It took awhile to compile it together. I compiled it together just 2 days before Shawn was released from the hospital on his 2nd time there.



Len Collier
10/25, 3:42pm

Len Collier
Marcie's @cgamble10 => 328540234 @made_Ln_usa => 3370067421 @maisielynd => 3989197365

This is posted on that forum I created that I told you about which is for quick reference and to keep track. If you were to look at it as a regular member, you can see anything that the area it in even exists. Only someone in a specific group can see it. Oh and admins.



Len Collier
10/25, 3:42pm

Len Collier
I see that now. I will admit I have "Watched" you for awhile. Not to be malicious, but of curiosity

Oh thank you for reminding me.

The mass suspensions. I'll tell you exacly who was behind that. Shawn's brother Jack

He was @antibullying411. He committed suicide while he was on vacation visiting his father in Australia.


Len Collier
10/25, 3:45pm

Len Collier
At first, Shawn, myself and others thought Shelly was responsible. Me and Shawn talked to her about that. Carl came clean.



Len Collier
10/25, 3:46pm

Len Collier
Carl did manage to get soemone to get into Jack's laptop. It had several security measures on it that would make Jo Camp wet his panties.

Shelly s in Michelle yes.



Len Collier
10/25, 3:49pm

Len Collier
Shortly after Carl got this computer tech he knew to get into it, one of the security measures kicked in and the hardrive got wiped. Based on what he saw it looked like Priest and Mindy were responsible. But in talking to Carl further, the profiles that looked like Priest harassing Jack (@antibullying411) was not priest but someone pretending to be him. The big hint was when I asked Carl "Any penis jokes, particularly Priest saying he had a micropenis?" Carl said no penis jokes. That was when I knew Priest had no involvement. Priest always makes micro penis jokes at some point.



Len Collier
10/25, 3:49pm

Len Collier
I know and Alexa is watching soem of Vinnie's peeps' timelines. She has a sock on Lisa6654;s TL she will deactivate after a quick PDF.

I feel bad I ever believed Jo Camp.


Len Collier
10/25, 3:50pm

Len Collier
Even though I was not behind any of that bullshit (excuse my language), I still accept partial responsibility. I could have asked questions.


Len Collier
10/25, 3:51pm

Len Collier
Oh as for that Samusaran_x profile. That was never me, but I was okay with people being lead to believe it was. It's purpose was an epic fail though.



Len Collier
10/25, 3:52pm

Len Collier
As for Lora Lusher, the only time she talked wwas when she wanted someone reported. The purpose of the samus profile (manned by Melina and Arthur) (@zenonk987 and @lichking_x) was to get the Camp lemmings to open up. Part of me always had suspicions but I didn't think to ask alot of things.


Len Collier
10/25, 3:53pm

Len Collier
That is why I won't let Carl near my house anymore or my computer. I had my IP changed since talking with those people.

As for Retzlaff, I never talked to him that I know of. Nowadays I am careful who I talk to and weary of many people unless I personally know them. That is how Shawn is to, but he has always been like that. Even in real life.


Len Collier
10/25, 3:55pm

Len Collier
I remember some of them. I think there is one still in exitence.



Len Collier
10/25, 3:57pm

Len Collier
He only ever asked me for weather in New Jersey and Pennsylvania. About his employment, I think it was just temp work. Day labor. He said little about his work abnd he had to be on the move alot. I tried once to get him to say where, but he never did.


Len Collier
10/25, 3:58pm

Len Collier
AH HA! Here you go. GOLD! https://twitter.com/laranjeiratuga

I DMed my cousin Alexa to get a PDF of it. She's out somewhere now I think. So it could be awhile. I doubt that profile is going away anytime soon though.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:03pm

Len Collier
When he goes back to prison for YEARs, that is when that forum I told you about will have his area made public. Not before then because it would mess up keeping an eye on him. Also go for PDFs. Get a firefoxc add on. It will help. I would but Firefox, is hated by me. Shawn won't use it. I prefer opera. But still.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:05pm

Len Collier
Right now I got Shawn's attention on Minecraft and searching for Birchwood and other woods types in our Minecraft world and to build a house with what he finds. The seed used, well, so far I have wnadered far and never seen anything other than jungle so his attention is distracted. But later on I'll tell him I wasn't searching for old movies and we were talking and it went well. Shawn has a bad temper and is very protective of me. I don't want to risk him trying to jump in and saying something that could cause trouble. He ghas been stressed out alot lately. Loss of his arm. Stress of seeing me upset and hurt from bullying and used. You know the rest. Dont worry I still have time to talk.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:06pm

Len Collier
No need to say Camp is full of it. I know. I have picked up on it slowly but surely.

Minecraft. simply put, you build things with blocks. It's like hunter. You go with tools and get what you need. I esentially sent Shawn on a wild goose chase so we can talk.





Len Collier
10/25, 4:08pm

Len Collier
and so we are clear. I am not asking you to talk to Priest for me. If you do, it has to be your choice. I sdon't want to influence you to do so.. As for my dox. Eventually I hope it comes down, but anytime soon would be a bad idea. It would tip Jo Camp off big time, and there goes the eyes and ears.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:09pm

Len Collier
I will admit prior to recent events that while I did not do bots, I did say some bad things about you to those I personally know. That was only because I was scared and at that time I believe you were the trheat. While I didn't harass you. I feel bad for ever believing Jo and those other pigs.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:10pm

Len Collier
Shawn, on the other hand wants it down ASAP. Fail doxing pisses him off big time. I have told Shawn what I told you and will do my best to keep his attention away from matters so he clams. Last thing he needs is stress.

Ah yes. I remember. At that time I remembe rMarcie saying something about how she had anon support, more than you or Priest. It pissed her off when I asked if she did, why is Priest around still and why did his site only go down from non payment and not how she said.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:12pm

Len Collier
Also a word of advice. Never give in to a vile bully. It's like how cops tell you about terrorist. Give in once and they got your balls.

If she did to the extent she claimed, Priest would not exist. I also wonder if it was her or Vinnie behind some of the accounts I thought of as Priest. Likely it was "Vizard".


Len Collier
10/25, 4:13pm

Len Collier
While Shawn was in the hospital he took a look with his phone. Too much came up for him to keep track. I have checked a little myself and it is like "Holy shit" the same reaction I get when I mention how many root canals I really had.

While I can't change the past and the fact there were times I believed thwe worse about you, all I can do is apologize for believing the wrong people, apologize for not thinking to ask more questions that could have helped things come to light sooner.

I am not always good with words at times so if I say something wrong, please forgive me.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:17pm

Len Collier
That can be tricky because it was Jack but I might have its information. Original that was going to be a celebrity thing. Like celebrity slams. Point out the sirty laundry but it a humor way.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:17pm

Len Collier
In all this currently. I prefer to be kept out of all things about this except in the following sense. I will continue to relay information to you as I spot it on that forum, or you can look yourself http://s15.zetaboards.com/DerWilleZurMacht

Same pw for Priest. You are are free to use whatever info you find. You don't have to give credit. I prefer not. It would roaylly screw up alot.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:19pm

Len Collier
Also when Shawn ended up in the hospital again for his 3rd amputation he gave all his friends and forum members a choice. Wipe your TLS and quit talking to those known to Vinnie Spina or you're not welcome.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:20pm

Len Collier
Zetaboards, I am use to. I have helped friends set up boards before. But Invision Power which is similar and is going to be Shawn's new forum digs.... is unfamiliar.

Oh what are you saying is a trap by vinnie?


Len Collier
10/25, 4:20pm

Len Collier
People like me never do well in court. Even when I testified against an ex. I looked like the problem. I get stressed easily.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:22pm

Len Collier
Good news. I think I just got in.

The information was in a lockbox I have along with the typical stuff. Birth certificate. Basic ID crap in case fo emergency (devastatign storm... helo Patricia.. with monsters like that....)


Len Collier
10/25, 4:28pm

Len Collier
Originally that account was suppose to be for celebrity slams in a humors way. It was going to be run by me, Norrine (@Norriec_UTD), Alexa (@H8trchick), and Carl (@citizen_z541). I even had a few things gathered about Justin Bieber (he is everyone's target.)



Len Collier
10/25, 4:30pm

Len Collier
I can understand why you're miffed and why you are pissed. It bothers me alot, but I understand. As a sign of good faith, I took the first step in making sure the "Bullying proof" on Shawn's forum got deleted. I forgot I was left with actual admin power



Len Collier
10/25, 4:31pm

Len Collier
Also here is food for thougght. If this was a trap, why would I have my cousin watch Jo's TL and feed it to you. via PDF



Len Collier
10/25, 4:32pm

Len Collier
I can understand that. As for Priest. I want him to make his own choices. If he forgives. Let it be because he wants. Not because you or anyone asks. Rememebr how my judgement was clouded for awhile?

I know how it feels to be told what to think, how to feel. Especially recently.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:33pm

Len Collier
As much as I want a truce and peace, he needs to make that decision. I don't want to do to him what others have dfone. Also it is qhat @Queenzofmedia and @imdarelzslimsha had said about Priest that got me thinking he isn't the bad guy.

Ip grabbers is what got them, I know. That was explained to me. This is why I won't allow Carl near my house. Why Shawn will kick his ass again (I'll tell you about that in a sec).


Len Collier
10/25, 4:35pm

Len Collier
There was times when I would have Carl and many of our friends at my house for Wrestling PPVs and other little events. You know what The Walking Dead is right? During the last TWD marathon I was with Angelica, Kelvin, Larry, Webster (before his DUMB ASS WENT TO MEXICO. the idiot) and a few neighbors were all hanging out for that.



Len Collier
10/25, 4:37pm

Len Collier
I'm sure you obviously know what Sharknado is. During Shark week back in July Alot of us were at my house watchign shark movies. Nothing but it. A few people brought their laptops. Carl was around. In that confessional paste bin note where he says he made it look like we were the same people. One way he did it was when Norrine wasn't looking once he got on her account and possted a tweet and erased it. In a nutshell he was an asshole and pulled alot of shit. I'm sure you can guess the rest.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:38pm

Len Collier
I don't even truly know Priest's real name. I'm not going to ask. Even though I am curious I want to try and show the same respect Iw ant.



Len Collier
10/25, 4:40pm

Len Collier
The mention of anonymous I assume is Priest to a point. I remember when I heard tales of Anonymous getting n that one dentist Howard Schneider.



Len Collier
10/25, 4:42pm

Len Collier
Tampa Bay is a good paper and they wouldn't mention Priest if he was the asshole I thought he was originally. While alot of what he did to me hurts me, by talking to @queenzofmedia, @imdarelzslimsha and Shelly I have come to realize I should, as they say, give him a fair chance. Fair chance as in not say anything bad about him anymore.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:44pm

Len Collier
Priest should have Timothy Dale Poole on his site. He is the asshole (Tim) that started all the bullyign I went through in World of Warcraft. Timothy Dale Poole is a registered sex PREDATOR. He plays Twigglet on the Whisperwind server (alliance faction) in World of Warcraft. Insult to injury he won the lottery. Google him "Timothy Dale Poole". I think he is now being sued by his victims. Also he still plays world of Warcraft. I know this because of when I look at his Twigglet profile it shows recent achievmenets and activity but yet none for that character. So he is obviously playing on other characters.



Len Collier
10/25, 4:45pm

Len Collier
That man's weight has nearly trippled sicne he has been released from prison. I spoke up in guild chat about him being a predator. He lost nearl;y all his guild members so he had people spread things about me. and he was pissed to find out I wasn't a teenager like he thought


Len Collier
10/25, 4:45pm

Len Collier
Yes. I will pass that to my cousin and our friends.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:48pm

Len Collier
Here's the thing. I am sure you are an attorney and have knowledge of the criminal aspect of the legal system. I think, by law a sexual PREDATOR has to disclose all of their chat identities. I highly doubt he was disclosed his World of Warcraft identities. I doubt he even has his real name on his own World of Warcraft account.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:50pm

Len Collier
That I believe because Marcie went on about Mindy alot. I remember something Marcie claimed about her and Priest. Also the bit about Priest driving me to suicide is false and made up by those clowns. I never once thought of suicide once because of Priest.

If Priest ever wants to list Timothy Dale Poole, in a day or two I will post on that forum I made a few tidbits and point things out.



Len Collier
10/25, 4:53pm

Len Collier
I wish I still had half the chat conversations. That's why I said I wish Priest would list him or catch wind of him. Not for my benefit because fo him (TDP) getting the WoW bullyign started on me) but because he could end up hurting thers.

Oh I have a pdf of Dave's TL. He changed from @jolivette8910 to @loogan_dave.



Len Collier
10/25, 4:55pm

Len Collier
Also he is poking at Mindy's dead child.



Len Collier
10/25, 4:56pm

Len Collier
http://pastebin.com/gmRJ6u9Y A lsit of possible reportable tweeets. @Babydoll9186 gathered them up.


David A Lawrence reportable links - Pastebin.com
pastebin.com


Len Collier
10/25, 4:56pm

Len Collier
I stopped talking to him when I saw him post these pics of that kelly woman.

Oh and circu.se is the clowns site.


Len Collier
10/25, 4:58pm

Len Collier
I never said Priest drove me to suicide. I will admit I have thought of it once or twice, but not because of Priest but becaus eI am sick of all the bs of this whole matter which is why beyond this conversation (private chat) I won't discuss any of this. I am trying to cleanse my life of bullshit.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:01pm

Len Collier
That's why even when I had to testify against an ex of mine "Paul" (will give 411 in a sec). I was reluctant. I can eat a canoli now, be asked about it tomorrow and say yes, but If I am on the spot, I will look like I lied about eating that canoli. I would hurt more than help. Stress lately has affected me alot which is why I have limited my online communications. Shelly and what she said is why I am talking to you saying I should give you a chance.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:02pm

Len Collier
Being how you have reacted so far, that is why shelly suggest I talk to you because even to jerks you will be civil and listen.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:03pm

Len Collier
As for the ex Paul. Shawn's other brother Rick introduced me to him. Long story short, Rick introduced me to nearly all the relationships I had. The ones he didn't just pushed me into it to use me.

If there is information I can provide for you I will . That is why that forum was made and because me, my friends were all passing it around in DM which would trigger account locks. Bummer.

So I figured. Create that forum as a cetranl information source. That will remain hidden. To keep it safe, Membership is close.d. For someone to join Iw ould have to create the name.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:06pm

Len Collier
What pissed off mine and Shawn's friends and why they bad mouthed you (you are owed an explanation) is the doxing of them as me and Jo Jo bots. In my mind it hurt me because it was like saying my life was fake. Fake life made me feel like I didn't deserve to live. Also just so we are clear and ex of mine did find me because of Priest's site, but I do not blame priest. He would have found me anyway, but likely much later.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:06pm

Len Collier
I am telling you in case Marcie yaps or her good buddy Boo aka Jennifer Martinex starts yapping.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:07pm

Len Collier
These are the accounts she has that I know of. Boo aka Jennifer MArtinez.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:08pm

Len Collier
@j_klown is private. @V1zardb00 is open but she has not said much. @21centuryboo is private.

Azule_Diosa is her follow train whore account. Although it is deactivate right now as is @voodoo_h3x and @v00d00_h3x. She frequently deactivate to protect them



Len Collier
10/25, 5:10pm

Len Collier
Also I have alerted my cousin that if Jo Camp contacts her to "play him" and keep track of all conversations.



Len Collier
10/25, 5:11pm

Len Collier
Ogh I know. I watch alot of cop shows and I got an attorney in my family, hold your beans maam, that has been a lawyer for nearly 50 years. (small fyi he is social media dumb and as far as he thinks. matters are resolved). I don't like to involve people that don't need to be.

It's okay. Shelly showed alot of integirty and honor by accepting Carl's apology. Although me and Shawn still don't like Carl too much.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:13pm

Len Collier
Oh and @CoolTweets321 is run by all 4 testament shits ( I say shits becaus eI use to babysit them... cna you say bottle rocket, principals office, Alexa, Norrine, and Angelica (@H8trchick, @Norriec_utd, @Angiemc_UTD)


Len Collier
10/25, 5:14pm

Len Collier
I know that account was listed on Priests site.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:15pm

Len Collier
What got it to go around so fast was what you didn't know is alot of us were in a group DM. Carl started flapping his gums quick. At that time he was on Vinnie's side. He knew Faux was Vinnie but left out much info to me, Shawn and others. Now.. about the fight.... The big fist fight.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:16pm

Len Collier
Shawn beat the hell out of Carl. Carl threww the first punch. I had to get between them to stop it.



Len Collier
10/25, 5:17pm

Len Collier
I know I still have that DM I think. Also Kelvin (@redtestament4) was one of those who agreed to the TL wipe and "no priest bad mouthing" in order to be part of Shawn's new forum.

Shawn is like me in one major way which is why some of your friend fail doxed him as me. I'm sure you know about my root canals right? I lost track of how many past 12.

I don't take well to pain mediciation. Meaning it takes alot of it to work. Last root canal I had close to 3 times the normal dosage of meds. This other time when I had 6 done at once, I had to be re-dosed in the middle of it.



Len Collier
10/25, 5:20pm

Len Collier
Shawn doens't take well to alot of medications. Alot won't work. First tiem he was in the hospital for the first amputation, he was given antibiotics. He didn't take well to them, but he started to heal after a second amputation took him just above the elbow. He was released. Then as he came home to his house I stayed with him to help him get use to his one arm life style. I once had to deal with one arm before so I was of help (will explain in bit)



Len Collier
10/25, 5:21pm

Len Collier
The fight with Carl happened. I got sick. I ended up with chicken pox. I never had them as a kid. Carl got super stupid. hung around us when he had it. You guess the rest. While I was in hospital, mild heart attack (stress). My blood [pressure is high which is why I am listening to advice by @queenzofmedia about "Try to have as few enemies as possible" which means try to make amends. and I did talk to teresa an on phone. Shelly too.



Len Collier
10/25, 5:24pm

Len Collier
An ex of mind found me because of Priest's website. I do not blame Priest although I am sure others like Marcie will claim such. "Eli" cam over. Shawn got in a fight with him and hit a brick wall as they fought. He broke his hand at that point. He didn't think to go to the hospital. But eventually he did. While he was there he fell, the bone came a little out his hand. Compound fracture. never pretty. It was fix and he was released when time came. I still had questions myself as to the need for the amputation. Since I am listed to make decisions on Shawn's behalf. I made the choice for the amputation. Circulatory issues. The first break is what started it is my gfuess.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:25pm

Len Collier
Oh and speaking of McGibney. I haave sometimes referred to him as McGiblets. Not to be mean but because an old manager of mine had that nickname and James looked like him. He had a odd philosophy "If you're going to steal one mcnugget steal a case. Make it worth it. Same trouble"

I would talk to you on my normal FB but reason I wont is in case certain assholes say things. If they claim this or that, better chance I'll know they're full of shit. Even half my friends don't have it.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:27pm

Len Collier
this is a SS of the admin CP of the forum Shawn is leaving for dead. Certain areas are gone. The thread about you was one of the first to go

Len Collier
10/25, 5:28pm

Len Collier
Yes and no but if I do, I will have to create a sock for that. I don't want certain people on my TL, I t would royall screw so much up.




Len Collier
10/25, 5:29pm

Len Collier
Also here you go. Marcie's IP from when she first signed up for Shawn's forum.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:31pm

Len Collier
Back to Carl. I barely talk to him. Shawn won't. He will "beat his ass" if he comes near me and him. The other day Carl told me via DM Patricia was 200mph. I was like "Bullshit it was a weakling yesterday." but he sent this t prove he was right.




Len Collier
10/25, 5:31pm

Len Collier
Point is Carl and mes friendship is reduced to just weather talk. I am being careful of everyone.



Len Collier
10/25, 5:34pm

Len Collier
I mgiht still have some very old screenshots. No guarantee though. As for Zile. Carl passed his information around, which I do not dcondone. Even if you tortured me, I wouldn't pass your info around because I know how it feels.



Len Collier
10/25, 5:36pm

Len Collier
It did. I was showing you what I was shown.



Len Collier
10/25, 5:37pm

Len Collier
It shocked me too. It was a weak thing, then so quick it got violent. Good to say, it hit a mountainous area. I haven't seen anything about a death toll yet or major damage. That big thing with catastrophic ability barely made a dent but Katrina was tiny cvompare to it as was Sandy and they dfid much harm.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:38pm

Len Collier
To make things alot easier if you want you can save this conversation and show to Zile. I don't do well when bombarded with questions.

also that is another reason for that one forum I created.



Len Collier
10/25, 5:40pm

Len Collier
This way they can get their answers without me being in line of fire.

This wway win win and I'm sure the are aon Jo jo would make them drool. Especially Priest. Priest lacks o much info on Jo jo socks.



Len Collier
10/25, 5:42pm

Len Collier
I just did a TOTAL KILL. Just in case anyone has doubts that's what's left of Shawn's forum. He gave me the okay to do it since he is abandoning it.




Len Collier
10/25, 5:42pm

Len Collier




Len Collier
10/25, 5:44pm

Len Collier
Nothing left = no doubts and as for the new one... it will be awhile before it will be open. It will have some antibullying stuff on it, but no naming people. Mostly generic and articles plus other areas. Also it has beena very long tiem sinc eI dealt with Invision Power so yeah will be awhile.



Len Collier
10/25, 5:45pm

Len Collier
I am not on your TL. That is why I told Shelly I was talking to you here. I gave you the quick run down of who my close friend are. Basic first names and relations. Basic stuff. None are on your TL. Jo jo likes to make socks. I remembe rhe once had a facebook account he bought one. Woman in glasses was the picture. I think the name was Marla Not sure.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:45pm

Len Collier
Well here's the thing. The forum is closed off but to me and Shawn. Even my cousin.




Len Collier
10/25, 5:47pm

Len Collier
Me and Shawn are in the main admin group. Meaning we see and know all. The ABE name you saw in that SS is what I call a DUMMY. One thing I have learned is when you make a forum. Have one name HIDDEN FROM ALL, that you use to access the main admin panel. Make the password something crazy and stupid and out there. This way it decreases the chance of bullshit.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:48pm

Len Collier
If the name that accesses the admin CP cna't be seen on member or moderator lists then how does one know what to use to login with and the email attached to it is some random jumble of letters. For example SDFsdfsdfsdgsd@yahoo.com


Len Collier
10/25, 5:50pm

Len Collier
Marcie is not. She sent a topless pic to Shawn. He raged on her because of it. Shawn is still a virgin. We haven't had the chance to "you know yet". He still needs to heal and he was raised to only be with one woman. Marcie tried to take advantage of that. But he did get on her case. Marcie is good friends with Boo aka Jennifer Martinez. Jennifer MArtinez is good friends with "Vuizard". I remember he mentioning Marcie and Vizard talk alot. I think Vizards real name is Carlos. mnot sure.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:50pm

Len Collier
Marcie got really nasty once when someone, I think it was Larry (@BlueTestament4) suggested I talk to you. He made the grievous error of saying that in group DM.



Len Collier
10/25, 5:53pm

Len Collier
He claism to be 40 but also not sure if you are aware but some point last month I recieved a bad call on my home phone. I dont have a phone hooked up but I check voicemail via PC. I did while on Shawn's laptop at the hospital one day.




Len Collier
10/25, 5:54pm

Len Collier
I'm trying to see if I still have that voicemail. It was a mail voice. Person claimed to be a dan gordon. I sent it to Teresa Cramer via email.



Len Collier
10/25, 5:54pm

Len Collier
There it is.

I forgot where Shawn had it. (and fyi Shawn is STILL looking for Birchwood in minecraft. NEVER NEVER use a seed named TheWalkingDead)


Len Collier
10/25, 5:56pm

Len Collier
I would say it is Jo Camp but if it was then he would have blocked me and my friends already.

also I am sorry for anything bad I have said about James McGibney. I remember when he had his cheaterville profile. I have checked his TL now and then. Mainly because one thing baffled me.




Len Collier
10/25, 5:58pm

Len Collier
I looked at old tweets back in 2012. I went back far compared to current tweets. It is like James had changed. Like he had snapped like somehow between current time and 2012 somethign happened to him. Something traumatic.

Oh and right now I sort of talk funny.


Len Collier
10/25, 5:59pm

Len Collier



Len Collier
10/25, 6:00pm

Len Collier
The dotted teeth are dangeously loose crowns. The other teeth you see. ALL CROWNS. Bottom front teeth (cant see) all crowns). the red dotted front tooth is very wiggly so it will be worse. I grind my teeth at night apparently . Stress is a factor is what satan (dentist says) so lisps and funny voices I know.


Len Collier
10/25, 6:03pm

Len Collier
See that tiny tooth? When you get a root canal, they numb you up. They drill in. Do their thing. They fill it. Then you go back to the dentist and they grind your tooth down next to nothing like that small tooth their. It is what they do to prep for crowns. If a crown comes off it is important to get back to the dentist ASAP otherwise the tooth shifts. Tooth shifts and they have to redo an impression. Feel free to save that picture. If your son weon't listen when you say to cut down on soda and sweets. Show him that "This can happen to you." I vrushed my teeth but all those canals still happened. I ate alot fo candy and sweets. That did me in.


Len Collier
10/25, 6:03pm

Len Collier
So I talk sort of like a baby now.



Len Collier
10/25, 6:04pm

Len Collier
The vociemessage sounded liek ti was a kid but not quite. More like a young man.



Len Collier
10/25, 6:04pm

Len Collier
don't let your child end up like me. I have maybe 3 of 19 teeth left that are actually 100%mine.


Len Collier
10/25, 6:05pm

Len Collier
Back in September but I didn't spot it in my comcast account until Shawn suggested I check it. He remembered that even though I don't have a phone hooked up I should check my voicemail online. That was the only bad voicemail I got. I got alot of anonymouse (unknown user) calls, but they barely did anything.


Len Collier
10/25, 6:09pm

Len Collier
Alright I am going to paste to you something. It may look bad because of how it started. It is a copy and paste of a long long DM Carl posted in a group chat before his last suicide attempt. It was just before he and many of us began figuring out what was what.

I just need to find it.



Len Collier
10/25, 6:11pm

Len Collier
Mainly I am pasting wha tI am about to because it is an explanation about Shawn and how he is. I am telling you this because certain things will set him off and some things he is very sentitive to.


Len Collier
10/25, 6:11pm

Len Collier
Yesterday Marcie and I talked on the phone. I went on about how I've hurt others and how bad I feel about what I have done. I told her that Shawn is one of those rare people that therapy does not help. Once he stopped trying to seek therapy and he began to open up to Miley alot more as a friend, he began to improve. At the same time he felt tortured because he wanted so badly to tell her how he felt. He was afraid to for many reasons. Those bullying her constantly accused her of being this person or that person. He was fearful because of things about him they would accuse him of being her or others. One night he finally told her how he felt. He started to go about it the wrong way by trying to test her. He did so by saying eh was going to move away. That only hurt her and devastated her. After a long talk with me, some others, and I believe some kind words from Marcie.... he finally got the courage. He opened up to her. He told her he loved her very much and that he always has. He grabbed her and kissed her without warning. From what I was told, it made her happy. She accepts him as is. Quirks, faults, and all. He has very bad scars. they have been fixed to a point. But how Shawn is now, they cannot be fixed any more than already has been done. Even before he was badly scarred, he was never comfortable going out in public. Only time he leaves his house is to go see Miley or he goes out for a walk or jog at night when no one is around. Shawn does not like his picture to be taken. He never has been. Before the scars he only was if the picture never went online or got sent to any person. Pictures in a frame at his house was fine. Now, he is not okay with any. I am one of very few people that accepts this. Miley is another. Shawn has dealt with people all his life pushing for this; pushing for that. Pushing for how they think he should be...... how they think he should live. He hates that. Miley accepting him has helped. Me accepting him has helped. Although recent events have set him back a little. That which I take responsibility for.

Miley is fine with not being able to post pictures of her and Shawn. She is fine with only being able to see him at his place or hers. Shawn is not the type to feel comfortable with living with anyone. Miley isn't either. They are both fine with just dating. His neighbor Burt was a licensed psychologist and a very good friend of Shawn. Therapy has never helped Shawn. But I will say this, having a good friend who was a licensed therapist does help. This is the best thing for Shawn. Even earlier, Burt told me the same thing Marcie did over the phone.

I also talked with Burt about other things. Mainly about my concerns for Shawn. Also about my issues. First let's talk about Shawn. He told me that the reason why therapy has never worked out for Shawn is because not because of trust issues, but because someone like him needs someone they know well and trust. Burt happens to fit that category. Burt knows all about Shawn. He has always encouraged him to tell Miley how he feels. All other psychologists have told him to move on and find someone else. Others have pushed him and pushed him to go out in public more and tried to push and force him to be comfortable with having his picture taken to avoid accusations of not being real of being made up and he will only hurt Miley if he doesn't get over it. But Burt is different. He is the best of both worlds for what Shawn needs. Marcie thinks he needs therapy. Shawn thinks he is fine with just friends. Burt is the best of both worlds. He listens to Shawn. He knows Shawn very well. If Shawn ever did need medication, he could get a friend who still practices to prescribe something. Larry (@BlueTestament4) use to pressure Shawn to try and be comfortable in going out places and hanging out with friends beyond his house or Miley's or his place or Alvin (@WhiteTestament4) and them's. Shawn hated that. He hates to be pressured. It's normal for a person to say that Stuff. I am sure Marcie will agree with me. But Shawn is unique. That kind of thing does not help Shawn. All it does is make him resentful and want to back away. Burt sat down with Larry and explained a few things to him. He essentially gave him a choice. Keep pressuring his friend Shawn or accept him as he is and work with it. Larry chose to accept Shawn as he was and work with it. The end result, it strengthened the friendship.

Listening to Burt and having Miley in his life has helped Shawn. If any of you knew Shawn before he opened up to Miley about how he felt, you would all agree he has improved alot. He use to be worse. Even when he was I stuck by him. So did Miley. What has tortured him so much was what his other brother Rick had done. Alot of which only recently came to light thanks to Norrine (@NorrieC_UTD) and Liz (@Babydoll9186). They were looking through old memory card sticks that had pictures of damage that hurricane Katrina did. Apparently Rick, Shawn's twin brother has pulled some elaborate bullshit. If you think what I did was bad, what Rick has done is far worse. To make it short, he is responsible for the marriages Miley has been in that she never wanted. He is behind relationships she was pushed into. all this so he could play the hero and try to win her affections. If none of that bullshit ever happened. None of it, then Miley would be a virgin like Shawn. The most twisted of Rick's bullshit was filming himself having sec with a red head woman. He had it edited to make it look like it was Miley. That crushed Shawn. Because of how Rick manipulated Miley, it was hard for Shawn to get through to her. They argued alot as friends because of how good Rick was in covering his tracks. Marcie, if you think Priest is bad, Rick makes him look like a saint. He's also been behind alot of bullying thqt Miley has been through is the past. He often would wait until she wasn't looking. He was often on her social accounts. He would make posts as if he was her. He was mean to alot of people as her. But he was slick. He would delete messages and posts leaving her clueless. The extent of his evil is worse than Priest. Forgive me for saying this, but thank god Rick is dead. He had a heart attack and died.

Marcie's advice is good and based on her own experiences. It would work for alot of people. With how Shawn is, he can't be pushed or pressured. It does more harm than good. I've told him that if Marcie comes off as pressuring him or it looks that way to not gettign angry or upset with her and tell himself "she is trying to help.". This was in a conversation via private DM after he apologized to me for the fist fight and for his outbursts towards me. The private DMs were more detailed. Also in that conversation we discussed an idea Marcie had. She suggested that Shawn and Miley check into a hotel to sort of "get away and relax". Shawn's issue is this. He can't handle being out in public or around people beyond those he knows. I have found a compromise. Kelvin (@RedTestament4) works at a rather nice hotel. I'm still waiting for him to get back to me, but I am trying to see if he can use his employee discount to get them a room for a week. What would pay for it is the money I was going to use for a round trip ticket to London England and back since Angelica was kind enough to pay for my trip (it had conditions). What will happen is once Miley feels better and the hospital releases her (high fever) and yes confirmed chicken pox. is Miley and Shawn will go to where Kelvin works. Luckily he works in roomservice so that idea (by Marcie) will help. This will give them good quality time alone to fully enjoy each other. It will give Shawn the chance he has been wanting for years.

Shawn and Rick met her when she was 6 and he was 11. He told me he saw her rollerskating. They literally ran into each other. As a kid he was home schooled. Occasionally he would ride his bike around. Never when too many people were around. His mother was a wonderful teacher. When she died, she left him a arather large trust fund. It has conditions upon it. Rick was not to have anything to do with it or receive any monetary help. He is to receive a monthly sum based on living expenses and costs. Any money left over after a certain amount is to be put away and saved. Should something happen to Shawn any remaining amount of money in the trust is to be donated to autism research and the American Cancer Society. I am unsure if anyone who reads this know, but Shawn does have autism. A little worse off than Miley.

As you know Shawn is stubborn in some ways. Remember what I said above, he does not handle pressure and to never pressure him. That is true to a point. I shall explain. He is never comfortable with his picture being taken. He is not comfortable going out in public unless it is to go to Miley's house or he has to go to the hospital by means of medical emergency. He is not comfortable meeting new people (face to face) he hasn't already known (face to face). He is not comfortable with anyone ever having his personal information. As for his scars, he's had surgery to reduce the severity of them. No more can be done for him. On the stuff in this paragraph, never pressure him on. Doing so will only cause problems. Accept him as is. Think about this, do you want him to listen or shut you out? I assume listen.

But when it comes to stuff like if he is sick or if he should tell someone something, yes pressure is fine then, but to a point.

Shawn got his scars on September 11, 2001. Rick started a huge fight with Shawn. As stuff happened they got out. They weren't counted among the 23 (or was it 22) rescued from the towers because they were caught up a bit aways. Fair warning, Shawn hates to talk about it.

Yes Shawn is 41. Yes he is a virgin. All his life he's only ever wanted one woman. I'm sure it is obvious who it is; Miley. On August 23, 2015 around 3:33pm, Shawn had his first kiss. He surpirsed Miley. He couldn't wait to tell me about it. Afterwards they just held each other.

I believe I think I told as much as I could to help you, whom sees this, understand Shawn. I know this is long, but I did it this way for a reason. So none of this keeps being rehashed. We all should enjoy each others not just rehash the same thing.


Len Collier
10/25, 6:12pm

Len Collier
REMEMBER the above I pasted is a copy and paste of a DM by Carl aka @Citizen_z541 just before we figured for sure Marcie was rotten.



Len Collier
10/25, 6:16pm

Len Collier
What's changed is everyone on my end knows fully what Marcie is. More is understood. Boo aka Jennifer Martinez was ound to be manipualtive snake in grass.

I save that in a word document for easy reference. I'll SS it for you and you can pass it on.


Len Collier
10/25, 6:17pm

Len Collier



Len Collier
10/25, 6:18pm

Len Collier
I have checked out Zile now and then. I did get on Carl about him. Not sure if you know but Carl is genetically female looking to transition to being male.



Len Collier
10/25, 6:19pm

Len Collier
I am sure eventually I'll be a target for Marcie and some of those she knows like Jennifer Martinez aka Boo. Mainly because I woke up one day and said flat out I was talking to Shelly. Boo was for it at first. Her reasons, my guess is she was likely hoping that a truce would Shelly would end up getting Priest down. Even though at the time I was weary of Priest, that made me uneasy because I hate being used.




Len Collier
10/25, 6:24pm

Len Collier
That's how Carl did it and I told Carl that if asked about his bullshit I would speak up. Carl claims he was helping me from beign bullied but what he did made it worse. Even if I hated a person, I wouldn't want anyone to go through wha tI had.

If I seem off it is because I am hungry, very hungry. I am missing a crown and trying not to eat until it gets re-cemented. Tooth shift. I'm in toruble


Len Collier
10/25, 6:27pm

Len Collier
Too late to start walking to the store. 2 miles from Shawn's house and I walk very slow when tired. Plus I'm stil trying to keep Shawn distracted (still looking for birchwood. apparently we chose bad seed)

Oh a little off topic. I was on Final Fantasy 11 earlier and I checked someone's character looking for an item I wanted called Beastly Shank. Someone had a message on their character about Bullyville. "Bullyville is back yo! Follow-------@teambullyville"


Len Collier
10/25, 6:32pm

Len Collier
If I see that character with that again I'll get an ss.

But anyway before Shawn did a URL change, which I had to help with, he got a DM from James McGibney saying something about how he knew it was me and to skip trolling 101." Shawn showed it to me. Neither of us still have it. I deleted them because at the time I was doing what I call a cleanse. Any dms I ever had from you in the past or him or priest, I deleted. Shawn did the same. He wasn't happy about it. Don't worry I'll keep Shawn in check.


Len Collier
10/25, 6:38pm

Len Collier
At first Shawn was upset but I made sure he responded cordially.. At first Shawn was angry. Part of him still is. It is not necessarily James McGibney. It is more or less the "doxing every one as Miley" thing. If you were to say Joe Biden was me, it would piss Shawn off. He is extremely protective of me. It showed when he and Carl had that fight. just making a point. James did dm me. He seems cryptic. Not sure what to think. Something about being good at what I do and tipping his hat. At the time I freaked out a little on him. Nothing too major. Mainly because of all that has gone on. The being doxed as this or that person is why. I thought James was going to start sayign I was this or that person. I was happy to say I was wrong. I talked to Shelly Teresa, and even Vengeance. I freaked out a little on them,w hcih I feel bad about. No name calling or threats. I can't help but freak out easily. It has to do mainly with life experiences. Not just this year so it would be unfair to blame you, Prieswt, James or any of you. As hard as it as and much as it hurts, I realize alot of you assume wrong about me because of events and how they came about and transpired. If I was in your shoes, to be honest, I would have likely reacted badly. I can't help how I see things or think sometimes but I try.



Len Collier
10/25, 6:39pm

Len Collier
When I talked to Teresa Cramer she said likely James was complimenting me on something and it was leading into a fail doxing like I was thinking.


Len Collier
10/25, 6:40pm

Len Collier
She said likely he meant what he said for now turning against Vinnie. I looked at this DMs again (which I don't have anymore) and thought "Oh shit Teresa is right" and I felt stupid. I told her Shelly, and I think Vengeance that for awhile I think it might be a bad idea if Shawn or I reply to James if he DMs. Not because of anything James said or did or thinks, but because I would likely misunderstand and say the wrong thing. I don't want to do that and blow things all to hell.


Len Collier
10/25, 6:42pm

Len Collier
I use to use cheaterville lot. Not sor me, but those I knew. I think Cheaterville could have truly thrived.I never thought wrong of it. Although I have said such a few times because I was angry when I was stupid and believed Jo Camp.

If you read that super long explanation about Shawn, you'll know why I never needed it for me.


Len Collier
10/25, 6:50pm

Len Collier
Oh about Brandon. One of Vinnie's friends @chikencounter (was @chickencounter) tried to pull Shawn in a group with Brandon and Vinnie, whom was Princessh0lly at one point. She did a switcheroo to princeh0lly. Got that suspended. Apparently someoen took advantage of that and madea princessh0lly. Brandon never spoke in that group.



Len Collier
10/25, 6:51pm

Len Collier
I see that. I do watch alot sometimes. Especially when shawn is playing Minecraft,w hich he does well with one hand (he is on peaceful mode which is no enemies)



Len Collier
10/25, 6:52pm

Len Collier
@W00pItUp is Vinnie now. I remember Brandon himself told me that. I acted like I was busy at the time. What that is is Vinnie's central profile. It is what I call an emergency back up. Always locked like Jo Camp's @PinkyPuffGirlz



Len Collier
10/25, 6:53pm

Len Collier
I hope brandon likes being a meme subject.


Len Collier
10/25, 6:55pm

Len Collier
http://memegenerator.net/Brandon-King That was either Webster (BlackTesatment4) or Zane (Joe_M_UTD) that added him to that site.


Brandon King
Create your own images with the Brandon King meme generator.
memegenerator.net


Len Collier
10/25, 6:57pm

Len Collier
Brandon is Twisted. I know Shawn still has the DM Vinnie sent him claiming he betrayed Brandon. After Shawn gets tired of searching for that birchwod he won't find, I'll see if he can post it on that forum, the hidn one.

That I might have. I am unsure. I think Marcie tried to show it right around when I blocked her.


Len Collier
10/25, 6:58pm

Len Collier
No Minecraft on Wii U I see, but Minecraft storymode yes.



Len Collier
10/25, 7:01pm

Len Collier
Np. I am sure once I tell Shawn what I really been doing he will be angry and wonder if I was intimidated. I will calm him down quick though. I'll start off explaining to him when my cat goes to sleep on him. He won't risk waking up the tornado puss.

Not sure either. I have yet to check it out. I mostly stick to Minecraft for PC, Zboz 360 or when I am at Shawn's house, Minecraft on PS4.

Minecraft is one of those games where you have more control. You can leave your son unsupervised while playing it. But be warned about world of Warcraft. Never let your son play on the alliance side of Whisperwind. That's where Timothy Dale Poole is.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:03pm

Len Collier
I have a son too. He will be 17. He was put up for adoption. He was adopted by this black couple I recommended that I knew that use to drive for the JTA here in Jacksonville.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:05pm

Len Collier
Last I checked I think they moved to dominican republic.

Gaming news... ign.com is a good source especially right when gaming events are going on like E3 and GC.

My son is a product of rape. Since I didn't believe in abortion I decided to give birth. I didn't show much. I didn't gain much weight and exercised regularly. So after I had him it didn't look like I even had a baby.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:06pm

Len Collier
Open yes. This is also why when a nasty (hurricane) forms near USA or its terroitories I keep close watch. At one point Patricia was predicted to cip across mexico, end up in Atlantic and reform. But that went to hell when it veered more north and disipated quick.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:08pm

Len Collier
Nope. Never knew who and I was too scared to report.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:10pm

Len Collier
I believe all have a right to life (unborns). Plus I never had the desire to have or raise kids. Some people encouraged an abortion. I decided on adoption. The baby a he (named Vincent) I decided had a right to live and have parents who desired children. I don't hate kids, but it isn't in me to mother though.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:12pm

Len Collier
Retzlaff runs via view files right?


Len Collier
10/25, 7:13pm

Len Collier
Also Teresa suggested Shawn change up a few things because of the bad taste @antibullyempire has left around. While I was on the phone with Teresa and before I hung up, I heard back from Shawn he agreed for the change and he changed his twitter URL. That's when I changed the URL to a friends old twitter for his (the friend) forum to antibullyempire and decided on the kill for Shawn's forum. Took a bit to get Shawn to agree to that.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:14pm

Len Collier
I remember Camp telling me he was misunderstood. That was the straw that broke the camels back and when I began my "breakaway"

I think my cousin Alexa might have old PDFs of Via View Files. I don't know. I haven't asked in awhile.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:17pm

Len Collier
Known systems for Minecraft. Also for PC, Mojang has this thing called Minecraft Realms. For 15$ a month you can have a server where you start a new world or upload your own and play there. It's a minecraft server where you don't have to set anything up but approve or deny permission from who you choose to access it. Safe for your kid if eh wants to play with friends. You could control the account as can hsi friend's parents.



Len Collier
10/25, 7:17pm

Len Collier
Camp always clamed up when I asked about his family.

There was so much I wish I knew but doubt I ever will.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:19pm

Len Collier
I wonder if he played with Sandy in 2012 and if that gave any victims a breather.



Len Collier
10/25, 7:20pm

Len Collier
I have looked at Priest's site while at the library one day. I was liek oh shit this means a case of coffee.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:21pm

Len Collier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdM6Mf2gGDE

That vdeo right there is done by Webster aka BlackTestment4 of Twitter. Remember the slamz thing I mentioned. He made that account for that purpose.. That's what Exposed 411 was going to be for originally.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:24pm

Len Collier
One thing I am sure you are wondering is why Camp targeted me and my friends to start to try and ween to his side. I think it was when I once had out a series of tweets about The Japan quake. He took that as I "know things" and have soruces to get quick information. I knew about the quake before it hit the news. The tweet about that. He fave and shortly after began to be friendly in DM.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:26pm

Len Collier
How I knew about the quake before it hit the news is simple. As you know I play Final Fantasy 11 and World of Warcraft. I have played them off and on for more than 10 years (off and on with periods of inactivity). One day I was on Final Fantasy 11 talking with my linkshell (what guilds are in that game.. soem of the guys, whom were japanese were also in a guild on World of Warcraft. At that time I had a laptop and desktop so I used my laptop to get WoW up. I had a character on their server so I began to use it to make items for a raid they wanted to do. As I was I noticed something disturbing.



Len Collier
10/25, 7:28pm

Len Collier
Red dots by many characters on Final Fantasy 11. That meant disconnecting. I thought it was odd. At that time most fo the players on were japanese so I fuigured maybe a hurricane. I checked. Weather clear. The game was like ghost town. The people I was makign raid items for on World of Warcraft all disappeared too.. Weather fine. Nothing in the news yet. Then I figured QUAKE. I was right, but Joseph Camp never thought to ask how I knew about the quake in Japan before it hit news. He just assumed I had massive resources. So he thought to be very nice. a KISS ASS mostly.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:30pm

Len Collier
Oh about hwat he said about you. At the time he began working me, Priest was only mildly rude to me, or so I thought. Carl, whom was listening to Vinnie said a few things. Jo Camp did too and I took it completely wrong and assumed you were as he put "bitch in a walmart weave". And fyi I doubt your hair is a weave or photoshopped. If you were going to photoshop your pic you would photoshop out wrinkles. Is potted a few. not trying to be rude. Just making a point.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:31pm

Len Collier
Camp first to be honest. But for Carl, it was Vinnie then Camp. To them Carl was like a guinea pig. Young, vulnerable transgender, scared of the world, etc. To them that was like steak to hungry dog.

January for me and Camp because at the time I was in heavy debate with some about the Japan quake then and a storm called Haiyan and an NPC of the same name in World of Warcraft.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:35pm

Len Collier
I can tell because of your toos and how the hair carries. Also if you bleached blonde, to do so you have to do so often and when a person does so their is aslight discoloration around hair line.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:36pm

Len Collier
Melina, Shawn's sister sent me this. It was ina folder she had on an external hardrive. In case you're wondering the woted tweet in gone. This was shortly after some of us began talking to Jo Camp. At the time Norrine was 19 and just started dating Alvin (@WhiteTestament4).


Len Collier
10/25, 7:38pm

Len Collier
That's all she had.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:40pm

Len Collier
I hate the sun. I burn easily. Natural red head. Norrine is in England right now. Carl's uncle married her and Alvin not long ago. Norrine did make that tweets and like me, feels sick she ever knew Jo Camp.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:40pm

Len Collier
I think it is the same person behind @_so_ya. Not sure. I don't want to say it is or isn't because I would hate for anyone to assume I am someone I am not.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:41pm

Len Collier
Norrine knows Camp is full of shit. She knows Marcie is what she calls "skankerella"


Len Collier
10/25, 7:42pm

Len Collier
I know them all. Five head to start. Remarks about my forehead. That pic of me that gets passed around was when I was 250 pounds. Now I am 170lbs. The numerous root canals helped jump start the weightloss. There was tiems I had numerous temporary crowns in my mouth and eating wasn't pleseant.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:43pm

Len Collier
That's why I said Id on't want to assume it is or isn't because I know how it feels to be assumed I am others when I am not. It bothers me. Some of my friends are bothered too. It pisses Shawn off.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:45pm

Len Collier
Ah okay. I am pretty much aware of all the names I have been called. Alot of my friends don't know that I am aware of alot of it. Hence why alot have said I have moved on and not paying attention. Trick is to be aware but show no indication. .

Sure.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:49pm

Len Collier
I figured. The keyboard I am on sucks. and sometimes space bar sticks.

I would have so much to show if Marcie didn't pull a block to kick thing. She blocked everyne in the group DM and it kicked much of us out.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:51pm

Len Collier
Remember what I told you about sometimes for wrestling events and some marathons I will hang out with some friends at my house?


Len Collier
10/25, 7:52pm

Len Collier
some of us weren't too smart and left our system unguarded. Carl took advtaneg of that. So IP grabbers out there snatched up my IP. Hence why Shawn has said himself he doesn't want Carl coming around me anymore.

Ah let em explain that..

blocktogether.org



Len Collier
10/25, 7:53pm

Len Collier
I can block people on that. You subscribe to my list so therefore anyone I block you block too without even going to their profile.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:53pm

Len Collier
Oh I know. This is why I'm glad I kept myself aware of more than my friends think.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:54pm

Len Collier
https://blocktogether.org/show-blocks/RSvc0U92_X5bnTiozD6Vf7HvQTJWNKIYuLMXCKXN This list is mainly Marcie, Boo (aka Jennifer Martinez), and Vinnie and her bunch. The Twitter account that goes off of is @CoolTweets321.

Block Together
If you subscribe to @CoolTweets321's block list, they will be able to see that you are a subscriber and will have the option to unsubscribe you. They will not receive a notification.
blocktogether.org



Len Collier
10/25, 7:56pm

Len Collier
I only ever was Sacrilegends and StarOcean2087. In MArch of 2015 I created the DarkHeartAngel3 persona. and sticking to that. I am tired of hiding from bullies so not changing again. Changign alot due to whatever can take a toll. I am sorry I ever believed Joseph Camp on anything. Because of that, peopel wrongly assumed I had all these accounts that I didn't, they assumed my friends were me. Part of me wish I came to you sooner. Alot would have been different. Hence why I said while I didn't use bots or put out anything against you I feel bad for believe the bad stuff said and rolling with it.


Len Collier
10/25, 7:57pm

Len Collier
Oh yes. That tweet. That was made by Vinnie to reel carl in. It was passed to Liz (@Babydoll9186) and she passed it around. I didn't think to question it. It looked real.

Babydoll9186 (Liz) was angry when she saw that tweets. She has since erased those blogs she posted pictures up on our friends forum.


Len Collier
10/25, 8:00pm

Len Collier
That was Carl using likesasap(dot)com. When I foudn out he was behidn them I was angry. So was Shawn. Shawn went off on Carl big time told him he would kick his ass. etc.



Len Collier
10/25, 8:02pm

Len Collier
I know hence why when Shawn was in the hospital the second time I made the call to delete those areas. I dealt with alot of bullshit from that. I was going to claim, oops accident. But bad idea. All I said was there was some false information provided and because of that I had to delete everything because If I only delete the false info then what was left would look worse. I explained to Shawn that alot of people said what they did out of anger and being mislead. What got Shawn to not be upset was when I said "Wouldn't you want someone to show that kindness to me."

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